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2 hours ago, ploder4 said:

The masturbation scene at the end makes one feel like Trev is becoming less and less important as Seth's "delusions of grandeur(?)" increase.  He's really getting a dominant streak in him.  It looks like he's gonna get a life where everything will be handed to him on a silver platter.  Trev will never get that unless he remains under the shadow and protection of Seth, and that's only if Seth doesn't get sick and tired of having to babysit Trev.  Even if Trev is still within Seth's sphere of glory and influence, Trev may never feel completely fulfilled.

I'm not so sure. I mean the reason they were doing it was Trev's worship and measuring.  And Seth invited Trev to come.  He didnt have to do that.  While I agree that Seth getting off on his height, strength, and power over all other people is disturbing it is not unexpected.  He went into it in Ch 7 at the bar.  It just depends on whether this is a gap fantasy or a start of something more - like the other giants are.  Seth could start to see Trev in a new more giant way.  The talk with Brooke and Jack was disturbing in that regard.  He sorta felt bad after... but he treated Trev just the same anyway.

 

Seth is becoming more and more dominant.  But are not they all except Trev?  And we know that IRL, the muscular, the good looking, etc always get more than the regular folk.  It is human nature.  Hell I'm nothing like Seth and its happened to me.  He may very well get a lot in life on a silver platter.  We shall see how that impacts Trev, he may be a full friend  or a possession or lackey hangeron or abandoned.  I really dont think now Trev will ever be a lover.  Seth is too straight.  He might do something akin to G4P without the pay but just for Trev.

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1 hour ago, bradspencer said:

I'm not so sure. I mean the reason they were doing it was Trev's worship and measuring.  And Seth invited Trev to come.  He didnt have to do that.  While I agree that Seth getting off on his height, strength, and power over all other people is disturbing it is not unexpected.  He went into it in Ch 7 at the bar.  It just depends on whether this is a gap fantasy or a start of something more - like the other giants are.  Seth could start to see Trev in a new more giant way.  The talk with Brooke and Jack was disturbing in that regard.  He sorta felt bad after... but he treated Trev just the same anyway.

 

Seth is becoming more and more dominant.  But are not they all except Trev?  And we know that IRL, the muscular, the good looking, etc always get more than the regular folk.  It is human nature.  Hell I'm nothing like Seth and its happened to me.  He may very well get a lot in life on a silver platter.  We shall see how that impacts Trev, he may be a full friend  or a possession or lackey hangeron or abandoned.  I really dont think now Trev will ever be a lover.  Seth is too straight.  He might do something akin to G4P without the pay but just for Trev.

I agree that Seth is too straight for him to get involved in a relationship with Trev other than what will likely be Trev's alpha.  The G4P thing will be a devastating thing for Trev.  It would be just like he was a pet.  Gotta take care of it, feed it, give it water and shelter, sometimes love when you feel like it.  What would Stacy think.  I don't know if Stacy would be okay with Trev being around.  So they'll kick him out.  Maybe, just maybe, Seth will tell Trev to e-mail once in a while, to which Seth won't respond unless he feels like it.  In the meantime Seth will be too busy enjoying his rich life (which will be deserved of course - even though he got help from the Elongro, he did put in all the work). 

But then again, when Trev was separated from the giants, and hopefully go where he won't be surrounded by them everywhere he goes.  He stabilized and worked on improving himself.  But the situation will probably rear it's ugly head again when Trev encounters a giant, or as someone said earlier, Seth or Jack would become Trev's boss.  He will just be working under a glass ceiling from then on.  He'd have to quit or he'd probably get laid off and replaced by another giant.  They wouldn't see him as productive enough for obvious reasons.  Trev being in a coma would spare him from more humiliation and lack of self-achievement.  It would definitely keep him from feeling useless. 

Although here's an interesting thought that follows the "mini me" train.   Trev shrinks down past 5 feet tall and the weight he lifts goes down or stays the same.  Maybe increasing only a little.  Trev is all depressed until Seth and Trev go to a physician or trainer who ends up saying something like "Comparing you two TO SCALE Trev is actually stronger than you Seth."  Meaning if Seth were Trev's size or vice versa Seth would be weaker pound for pound.  Not likely to be the case in this story but it's an interesting take. 

It's more likely that as Trev continues to shrink, so do his max lifts by scale.

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I would love to see something major happen between jack and Trevor that both makes it clear that Seth is in jakes corner. And maybe is the catalyst to start up jakes growth. I would love to eventually see Trevor finally grow. He could maybe go away and return huge. Or start to grow slow at first but then sky rocket with size. Maybe brook would start to regret her decision to move on. especially if jack starts to treat here poorly.  

Not sure if I would like jack to get back with brook I think he deserves someone better.  

If Jake does not grow I would like Seth to become protective over jake but at the same time encourage him to be the best that he can be. 

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7 hours ago, ploder4 said:

The masturbation scene at the end makes one feel like Trev is becoming less and less important as Seth's "delusions of grandeur(?)" increase.  He's really getting a dominant streak in him.  It looks like he's gonna get a life where everything will be handed to him on a silver platter.  Trev will never get that unless he remains under the shadow and protection of Seth, and that's only if Seth doesn't get sick and tired of having to babysit Trev.  Even if Trev is still within Seth's sphere of glory and influence, Trev may never feel completely fulfilled. 

Okay, 'serious' question about this scene, is this actually a thing guys do in college?  when not in college?  Is it an orientation thing?  Some other demographic thing?  Really though - its prevalence in smut and porn would theoretically be based on some facet of truth, maybe?  I did the university thing and, um, this was not on the curriculum.....

And yeah, I'm also fully aware that I'm probably going to get mocked a bit for asking this, lol.  ? vs ?

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On 2/25/2019 at 9:57 PM, anormorph said:

I almost believed that Brooke wasn't actively trying to push Trevor to crack until this line.  After this line, everything she said before and after comes into harsh, calculating focus.  The real question is why? Her barbs are specific and designed for maximum effect. What is her goal with all of it?

 

Sweet Daddy Fuckballs the Measurement!!!! Why are there not more comments about how deliriously hot this was!?!? Serious Sploosh here, people! Part of what made this scene for me was the considerate interchange of the characters motives and choices to blur sexuality lines. Dredlifter has depicted these two so accurately, with so much flawed humanity as they wrestle with this question and so many others. Trevor almost seems to be drawn out of his funk from the previous night by the scene. If Trevor's mentality crumbles like we're told it might, this worship and praise epic hotness makes me think that, worst-case-scenario, an empathy-devoid Seth will still intervene to actively help Trevor. Worship from an engaged, healthy mind is so much more powerful, more delicious, ego-satisfying than empty, void platitudes from a shattered, Stockholm-syndrome Trevor. This was a remarkable way to soften the blow of the earlier content, Dredlifter. The work on it's placement and just how many delicious numbers and comparisons you give us to distract us from Brooke and Jack targeting Trevor at the basketball game can only be intentional. Thank you.

 

Same Height kneeling – the scale of this comparison means that Trevor may have shrunk pretty dramatically between the gym measurement and the measuring Seth's muscles scene, for those of you who were wishing for that. Or it's another scene of extraordinarily skewed perception.  This one thing also spawned a new conspiracy theory for me – Trevor's in a coma from Elongro....

 

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Brooke made me very mad this chapter. Whether intentional or not, women usually know when they are being passive aggressive and how their remarks are going to be taken. She may as well have stabbed Trevor with a knife.

The measurement scene was as hot as it could be! The muscles, the dick size, all of it was just nonstop awesome. 

As for the comment about the same height kneeling, that made me realize we haven't had an update on Seth's height in a couple of chapters. From the observation Trevor makes about Seth being significantly taller than Jack, who has grown two more inches since last measurement, it's clear that Seth is still growing and now may be at or close to Seven feet. 

A couple of questions. Both Seth and Trevor remarked on how tall everyone was at the basketball game. At first I thought that meant that Elongro use was becoming widespread. However, the story then mentions that it is now selling for around $20,000, which is way beyond the means of most college students. It would be easy to dismiss Trevor's observation as paranoia coupled with actual shrinkage, but it's not that way for Seth. So, what's going on? Is just college students getting taller than average or is something else happening?

In the chapter where Jack gets his Elongro dose, it says there is one more left. Now there is only half. Is that just a continuity issue, or did I miss something? Of course if it's going to cause negative effects for Trevor, then I hope it's only half a dose!

Also, someone mentioned the other characters taking multiple doses. As far as i can tell, that has not happened. One dose per person so far. 

Finally, where are people getting the idea that Trevor hasn't finished puberty? Is that just because of his negative reaction to the Elongro so far, or is there some other reason? In nine chapters, I'm always afraid I may have missed or forgotten a detail. 

Thanks, dredlifter, for another awesome chapter. I was a few days late in reading it. So, while we're always waiting for a new one, I'm glad I got to read the chapter, comments and make my own before Chapter 10 is posted!

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10 hours ago, anormorph said:

Okay, 'serious' question about this scene, is this actually a thing guys do in college?  when not in college?  Is it an orientation thing?  Some other demographic thing?  Really though - its prevalence in smut and porn would theoretically be based on some facet of truth, maybe?  I did the university thing and, um, this was not on the curriculum.....

And yeah, I'm also fully aware that I'm probably going to get mocked a bit for asking this, lol.  ? vs ?

I mean it depends on the person(s) as well as the relationship that has been established between the party. I would never masterbate in front of a friend or want to watch a friend masterbate in front of me but I'm not that open. Others are open to it and when it comes to a hetro male on male relationship as long they have an understanding of one another and set boundaries there usually is no issue in the matter.

That said I do feel they could be playing with fire. Trevor is attracted to Seth's body and though they have yet to speak of any boundaries I feel as though Trevor may end up getting carried away. As we know Seth feed on this attention to boost his ego but we don't know what his limit is or what he would do should Trevor go beyond it.

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10 hours ago, Kymuscleboy said:

Brooke made me very mad this chapter. Whether intentional or not, women usually know when they are being passive aggressive and how their remarks are going to be taken. She may as well have stabbed Trevor with a knife.

 

True. But Brooke might also have rationalized the whole situation. Maybe she started to suspect that Trevor was gay for Seth, and would be better for her to 'get out of the way', and built a logic that exempts herself from any blame. I don't doubt that something happened when she handled Trev's Elongro to Jack. Probably Brooke was attracted to him right there, and the idea of Jack growing taller wouldn't leave her thoughts. I don't doubt that she was sleeping with Jack by then, thinking that her relationship with Trevor was already doomed, and only needed the 'right moment' to break the news to him.

 

I don't say that any of this makes her a good person or a bad person, but inside she probably feels like a reasonable person. That it was the 'right thing to do' to leave Travis, I mean, Trevor. I think that if he confronts her, she would just say, 'get real, you were thinking more about Seth than me, the whole time' (just as much she was thinking about Jack, he could say)

 

What surprised me is Trevor's coolheadness after what happened in the Gym showers. I would flee in shame after having my masculinity absolutely crushed like that, take the bus and stay home masturbating repeatedly (in shame) and then follow Seth's social media and jack off to his muscles again, have dreams and nightmares about him, but afraid to meet or talk to him again, completely confused about my feelings. Maybe Trevor was just too spellbound and floored to react like I expected.

     

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20 hours ago, anormorph said:

Okay, 'serious' question about this scene, is this actually a thing guys do in college?  when not in college?  Is it an orientation thing?  Some other demographic thing?  Really though - its prevalence in smut and porn would theoretically be based on some facet of truth, maybe?  I did the university thing and, um, this was not on the curriculum.....

And yeah, I'm also fully aware that I'm probably going to get mocked a bit for asking this, lol.  ? vs ?

I had a roommate that did enjoy having sex with his girl right in front of all of us back when I was that age.  So maybe it is more of a kink kind of thing.  Then again - they celebrated their anniversary by drinking beer they had buried in the yard together the year before so ....

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2 hours ago, merehuman said:

What surprised me is Trevor's coolheadness after what happened in the Gym showers. I would flee in shame after having my masculinity absolutely crushed like that, take the bus and stay home masturbating repeatedly (in shame) and then follow Seth's social media and jack off to his muscles again, have dreams and nightmares about him, but afraid to meet or talk to him again, completely confused about my feelings. Maybe Trevor was just too spellbound and floored to react like I expected.

Right?  But because there was so damn much that happened to Trevor in Part 8 we don't know if his behaviour is a sign of miraculous recovery and change to his personality or a sign of being totally overwhelmed for the night by everything or so traumatized that he can no longer function as an independent person....

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11 hours ago, merehuman said:

 

True. But Brooke might also have rationalized the whole situation. Maybe she started to suspect that Trevor was gay for Seth, and would be better for her to 'get out of the way', and built a logic that exempts herself from any blame. I don't doubt that something happened when she handled Trev's Elongro to Jack. Probably Brooke was attracted to him right there, and the idea of Jack growing taller wouldn't leave her thoughts. I don't doubt that she was sleeping with Jack by then, thinking that her relationship with Trevor was already doomed, and only needed the 'right moment' to break the news to him.

 

I don't say that any of this makes her a good person or a bad person, but inside she probably feels like a reasonable person. That it was the 'right thing to do' to leave Travis, I mean, Trevor. I think that if he confronts her, she would just say, 'get real, you were thinking more about Seth than me, the whole time' (just as much she was thinking about Jack, he could say)

I'm not referring to Brooke breaking up with Trevor as the reason why I've come to loathe her. I think that was inevitable and as much Trevor's fault as hers. I'm referring to her belittling remarks at the basketball game. She knows (or should know) they are going to make Trevor feel even more inferior and less confident. She referred to him as Seth's "little buddy," she talked about how "fulfilling" sex was with Jack, and that's when she acknowledged Trevor's existence at the ball game in the first place. Any woman who dated a guy for over a year would not treat him that way without intending to hurt him. All this after the old, "I still want us to be friends" remark and telling him that his lack of confidence and obsession with height was the reason for her leaving him.

I'm not going to try and guess as to whether she was cheating on him with Jack before their break-up, and I don't think it matters too much at this point. I will say that if she did, I doubt it was until after Jack started his own growth spurt. 

I accidentally deleted from your quote, but I'm also quite surprised that Trevor was able to recover after the emasculation in the shower. I think that as long as it comes from Seth, he kind of enjoys it. If he stops to think about things, he will realize that at 6.5 inches long, he's still quite a bit above average in the penile department. 

22 hours ago, Kymuscleboy said:

A couple of questions. Both Seth and Trevor remarked on how tall everyone was at the basketball game. At first I thought that meant that Elongro use was becoming widespread. However, the story then mentions that it is now selling for around $20,000, which is way beyond the means of most college students. It would be easy to dismiss Trevor's observation as paranoia coupled with actual shrinkage, but it's not that way for Seth. So, what's going on? Is just college students getting taller than average or is something else happening?

In the chapter where Jack gets his Elongro dose, it says there is one more left. Now there is only half. Is that just a continuity issue, or did I miss something? Of course if it's going to cause negative effects for Trevor, then I hope it's only half a dose!

Also, someone mentioned the other characters taking multiple doses. As far as i can tell, that has not happened. One dose per person so far. 

Finally, where are people getting the idea that Trevor hasn't finished puberty? Is that just because of his negative reaction to the Elongro so far, or is there some other reason? In nine chapters, I'm always afraid I may have missed or forgotten a detail. 

Did anyone have thoughts on the questions I posted? I know it's late in the game, and (hopefully) almost time for another chapter, but I would really like some thoughts on these.

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